Mariana van Zeller
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
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And so that his family thinks that he has a real job.
So I don't think he works like eight hours as a driver.
He works for a few hours.
He tells the family that he's a driver.
He actually has some stories of driving because he's doing it during the day.
And he can launder the money and it's not going to be a big question mark.
Where is he getting all this money from?
But the money that he was making counterfeiting, it wasn't for him, actually.
He was selling that because if you get caught, none of us wants to end up in prison.
So what he would do is that he's making the fake money and he would sell them a fake money to the boss that would then distribute it around the world.
Anyway, when I started interviewing him, his lies lit up.
He's so excited.
He's like, oh my God, somebody actually wants to know about this thing that I'm amazing at.
I'm like the Cristiano Ronaldo of fake bills.
Nobody's ever wanted to know.
And behind a mask.
Should have introduced them.
So I think it's ego and wanting to boast about it.
In terms of the cartel, a lot of times it's boasting, wanting to talk about it.
Then it's impunity in places like Sinaloa, where people just don't really see a downside.