Mariana van Zeller

And so when you don't, what are people going to do?

They're going to go back to drugs.

It is.

That was another episode we did this season that you should watch.

It's called The Rehab Scam.

It's the Great American Rehab Scam.

And it's about how in California, we filmed in Arizona and California.

In California alone, we got an insurance, the head of the insurance investigations in California, an insurance fraud investigator in California, told us that in his estimates that he said, they're probably very low, 10%

The thousands of rehab facilities out there are probably a fraud and a scam.

10%.

10%, which is a crazy number.

But he thinks it's a low number.

That it's probably much higher than that.

So our story was all about body brokering and rehab scams.

Body brokering, yeah.

What is that?

It's a term that applies to rehab scams.

Okay.

Rehab scams is basically the buying and selling of addicts in this billion-dollar market, right?

So they create these fake rehab centers that bill insurance for treatments that they are not actually giving people.