Mariana van Zeller
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So, for example, it's a huge problem in Arizona, and in California, but we started in Arizona.
Native Americans have really easy access to health insurance through the Indian American health plan that they created.
And it started as a good thing because it was difficult.
A lot of people lived in reservations far away.
A lot of people, you know, because of generational trauma and alcohol abuse and drug abuse, there's a real need for health insurance and for them to have access to health insurance.
So you have these huge communities that when COVID happened, the state made it even easier for them to get the help that they needed through health insurance.
But all these bad actors realized, oh, this is great.
We're just going to build these fake rehab centers, go around in white vans, literally.
There's like thousands of people still missing in Arizona, most of them Native Americans.
And they go out in white vans to these reservations in Arizona and New Mexico.
And they bring people, people who have problems with drug and alcohol.
and they bring people to these centers and then they start billing insurance, they get you on an insurance plan and they start billing insurance, crazy amounts of money.
Like we spoke, we were investigating this one facility that they were making 800 and something,
million, sorry, 800 and something thousand, $870,000 a week, a week from, you know, dozens of people that they were housing and not actually providing them the treatment that they so desperately needed.
Which is also illegal.
You can't offer somebody free housing and then tell them that you will only get the free housing if you go and do our treatment.
It's an illegal kickback.
So they were doing this out in the open.
And some of these business operators were actually not even Americans.