Mariana van Zeller

I've done stories on militias.

It was one of the stories we did this last season.

And it was important for me when we did that story.

I've been wanting to do.

There's rising militias, rising threat of militias.

everywhere in the world, but particularly here in the United States.

And we also filmed in Brazil, because it's a real problem there.

And we, I knew from the start that I didn't want to just do right wing militias, that it was important to also do left wing militia.

So we spent time with a group that operates on the border, right wing militia that operates on the border, and was basically trying to catch illegal immigrants.

And then we also spent time, you know, just a

A few miles away from that group, there was another group called the Black Cat Rifle Group that is a left-wing militia.

And it is, to me, what was so scary was that they existed because of the other side.

Of course.

They existed because the other side exists, right?

And none of them understood that, you know—

That one would become stronger the stronger the other would become.

And that this was all going to end not well for any of us.

And when I was asking the Black Cat Rifle Group, you know, when I was asking why they have a militia and why are they training, I mean, they were training with guns.

And, you know, if you look at these guys, they actually look – I mean, especially the guys at the border, which were the right-wing militia groups –

If I was an immigrant crossing the country illegally and I saw one of these guys, 100% would think that this is the U.S.