Mariana van Zeller

I don't know if we should be doing this show.

And they were brave and they did it.

But we still talk about that.

That's right.

But they did it and no one got raped.

So American authorities started going really heavy on the Chapo family, right?

The Chapitos, as they called it.

Sons of El Chapo was caught, brought to the United States, and then the Sinaloa cartel was run by the Chapitos on one side, El Mayo, who's the legendary shadow partner of El Chapo.

Everybody knows El Chapo, but nobody knows El Mayo, but he was the equal partner for the Sinaloa cartel.

And in many ways, sort of more crucial to the operations of the cartel.

He was the whole corruption that had the liaison, the partnerships with governments and law enforcement around the world in order to be able to move his drugs at the scale that they did.

And once El Chapo was brought to the United States, the government started really going after, particularly the Chapitos, because they were in charge of a lot of the fentanyl production.

And I don't know if you remember, there was a thing called the Culiacanazo where the Mexican Marines went and detained, apprehended Ovidio Guzman, who was one of the Chapo's sons.

Yeah, exactly.

So the military detains this dude, the son of El Chapo.

And immediately, all the different factions of the Sinaloa cartel got together and said, no, we're not going to let this happen.

So they brought the whole of the Culiacan, which is the capital of Sinaloa, down to its knees and demanded the release of Ovidio Guzman, El Chapo San.

They released him.

A few years later, they released him because they had to.

It was so embarrassing for the government, the Mexican government.