Mariana van Zeller

That's not the goal of it.

It's a consequence that can happen.

But I don't think it's purposely done.

I mean, I think that it's trying to make it easier for people to vote.

And unfortunately, it's a little bit like the rehab scam, right?

You're trying to make it easier for Native Americans to get health insurance.

But guess what?

Then there's people who are going to abuse that opportunity or that opportunity.

And that's what's happened.

That seems like that's a very charitable way.

Maybe, but I don't understand.

So either way, I think what is happening is that immigrants are being used as political pawns, right?

That's true.

And these are human beings, like the mother and like so many of these stories, like the father of the three military American guys went and served for our country and the father was deported.

These are, you know, horrible stories of human beings.

And a lot of times the people that are traumatized are American citizens.

They are the kids.

They're pulling away their family members, their mothers, their fathers.

And it's American kids who are being traumatized.

Oh, that too.