Mariana van Zeller
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
So we pretend like wrote fake questions and he'd give me OK.
And then I'd sit down and start interviewing people.
And the first person I interviewed, I started asking them the questions I wanted to ask.
And these were people that had gotten in trouble for trafficking.
They'd done time in prison and they were out.
So they'd agreed to talk to us.
So we're asking them questions.
But then I start asking the questions that I wanted to ask.
And immediately we get stopped from talking.
The government minder, who, by the way, is also traveling with the police officers.
We have a government minder and a police officer checking every single interview and listening, and they are with us.
And then our van one day disappears for hours, and it's our production van that we rented, but the government minder and the police decide to disappear with our van.
So we know that it was either checked and bugged and probably both.
That's when we realized, oh, my God, they're not just listening in on our interviews.
They're actually listening in on our private conversations in the van.
And then there were situations in the hotel where I truly believe my phone was bugged at the hotel because it was a crazy light situation and conversations that I were having that I knew that there was no other way they would know unless they were listening.
So the whole situation was crazy.
And we started going out in the middle of the night when they weren't watching and trying to figure out ways to do this story.
You went every single year?
For three, four years?