Mark Agnon
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first heard Jun 2025
last heard Jun 2025
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Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I've, I've even seen this with like my little nieces and nephews. Like my sister will just tell them like, Hey, we don't do secrets in our house. There's no secrets. Yeah. So if someone tells you to keep a secret, just tell them I can't keep secrets. Sorry. And even if your friends want to tell you a secret, just say, I don't do secrets. Just there's no need to keep a secret.
That's it. And it sort of keeps the whole family honest, to be frank with you.
Because they'll even say stuff, you know, just about the family in front of the kids. And they're like, we shouldn't say that because no one keeps secrets. So it's just it keeps everybody honest. And it also keeps them away from predators that are using that tactic and that honesty against them.
Yeah.
And this is what we were talking about a little bit before. This idea of stranger danger, I think, was predicated with good intention off of, you know, these movies, this, you know, this... sort of cultural panic around child abduction and abuse where, you know, vans would come up and abduct kids. And it was so terrifying and awful.
You know, you had cases like Johnny Gosch and Etan Pats and these infamous cases that are just so brutal where these children just vanish. And as a result, the media runs with these stories and they say, you know, be careful of strangers. sort of, I think, unfortunately neglecting the fact that I think it's like, what you said, 95% of sexual abuse cases are from a known person to the family.
Right. Whether, you know, a relative, uncle, coach, something like that. Yep. So I think that is another thing for parents to be aware of is that, look, of course, have a stranger danger, use, you know, sense, but also keep an eye on the people that are within the sort of inner or close circles. You have to, dude.
The police department.
Yeah. And I think predators also are aware of this, which is why they assume positions of high authority. Like they will become priests and they will become lieutenants and they will take on these positions within the society that have high moral standing because who would ever suspect? Right.
And that's my assumption is how cunning and evil these people are, is that they're trying to find ways to basically wear morality while doing the most deviant act.
Yeah, of course. And then also I think this idea that evil people are evil all the time. I think there is a perception that the pedophile or the abuser is this guy with a creepy mustache in your window and he's got a trench coat. That's not the case. These people, like you mentioned, are evil. upstanding of their society. They're well-liked. They have people around them. They have community.
And he uses this tactic with you and slowly finds a gap to kind of lower your, you know, your guard and then exploit this thing that happened to you in a way to create contact and keep a secret.
So what happens from that moment and how do things sort of progress with Dennis?
Yeah.
So when you're nine years old.
Is this where the sunfish incident occurred?
And you need to stay useful. Yeah. Or else something bad will happen. Right.
And what did you think as a nine-year-old seeing, like, these, you know, innocent fish? I mean, yeah, it's a fish. But seeing them get killed, I mean, what was the feeling?
Now, at this point, you know, you have known him for, you know, three-ish years. His standing within the community was still solid. He had a good reputation. There's no rumors about his behavior up until this point.
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