Mark Halperin

What would that Professor Holden's course consist of?

So one thing that occurs during war is, not just war, but you saw it with bin Laden, you see it now in the context of the Iranian conflict.

They write these obits or these bios of horrible people.

And the headlines or the lead paragraphs or even any paragraph says,

You know, oh, he loved poetry.

Oh, he was a, you know, he was a community leader.

You know, the one I wrote on Twitter the other day to parody this is Hungary, about Jeffrey Dahmer, Hungary, Wisconsin man has troubled relations with neighbors.

How does that happen?

Because because when it's happened for years and when it happens, people are outraged and rightfully so.

How could that happen?

How could an editor sign off on a headline of, you know, calling calling a terrorist who's killed Americans, you know, a spiritual leader with great influence?

And Imus, of course, wasn't particularly conservative.

I'll just I'll just say, I mean, he he was not as liberal as some.

J.D.

Vance, there's all in every realm of politics and media.

There's what's what happens after Trump and nobody knows.

And I stay away from it.

But Trump understands the media.

Trump has in the last four years.

leading up to getting elected, benefited, I believe, net net from negative coverage because he's turned the negative coverage into a plus for him.