Mark Moyar

But yeah, you certainly see a rise in the distrust of government

and a willingness to believe that the government is going to do bad things.

And I said, I think it did subside for time.

I will tell you more recently, things that might have been some kind of conspiracy theory, Crossfire Hurricane is an example of the government's actually doing some crazy things.

And you think there's no way the government is actually going to do this.

And I personally tend not to believe in conspiracy theories.

But at the same time, when you see something like that, you say, my God.

Well, that was surrounding in the 2016 campaign.

The FBI, and this was when Obama was still in power, they used this so-called Steele dossier, which had all these crazy allegations against Trump, which turned out to be false.

They used that to open FBI investigations into Trump's associates.

And some of this is still being sort of pushed out now by the new government.

But you have...

you know, the FBI basically being used to try to interfere with the 2016 campaign.

And senior, very senior FBI officials, and some of them, you know, end up getting fired.

I mean, Kevin Clinesmith, this is one I'd like to tell my Democratic friends.

I'll say, tell me who Kevin Clinesmith is.

Most of them don't even know what he is.

You know, this FBI official who falsifies a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.

And there's, you know,

Peter McCabe or Andrew McCabe, excuse me, he gets fired by.