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Mark Zuckerberg

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

They're like, oh, crap.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

We kind of need to be on this train or else we're going to lose.

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Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

We have some closed model API.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

And increasingly, a lot of developers, that's not what they want.

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Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

So I think you're seeing a bunch of the other players start to do some work in open source, but it's just unclear if it's dabbling or fundamental for them in the way that it has been for us.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

And a good example is like what's going on with like Android, right?

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Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

It's like Android started off as the open source thing.

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Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

There's not really like any open source alternative.

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Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

Like I think over time, Android has just been kind of getting more and more closed.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

So I think if you're us,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

you kind of need to worry that if we stopped pushing the industry in this direction, that like all these other people, maybe you're only really doing it because they're trying to kind of compete with us in the direction that we're pushing things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

And yeah,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

You know, they already have their revealed preference for what they would build if open source didn't exist.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

And it wasn't open source, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

So I just think we need to be careful about relying on that continued behavior for the future of the technology that we're going to build at the company.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

Sure.

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Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

Well, look, I mean, I think these models encode values and ways of thinking about the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

And, you know, we had this interesting experience early on where we took an early version of LAMA

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

And we translated it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg โ€” AI Will Write Most Meta Code in 18 Months

I think it was, it might've been into French or some other language.