Marla Oates

He was also the CEO of Hogan Assessment Systems, which we use here at the firm.

It's our proprietary leadership span model.

Outside of his corporate leadership roles, Tomas is a professor of business psychology at University College London and Columbia University.

Tomas, we are so thrilled to have you here today.

Welcome to Redefiner's.

What an impressive career you've done and accomplished so much.

Tell us about the decision to join Russell Reynolds.

How do we find ourselves so fortunate to have you on the team?

On behalf of Emma and I, we are thrilled to have you here at the firm.

Look, on Redefiner, we always ask our guests, tell us about your Redefiner moment.

Tell us about a moment in your life that really shaped how you think about leadership and was that pivotal moment.

I'm obviously super intrigued in that as someone who also left her own country, Canada, to come to the US.

So, no, that's fascinating.

Thanks, Tomás.

So you wrote this book titled Human, AI, Automation, and the Quest to Reclaim What Makes Us Unique.

So as we're interacting more and more with AI at work, at home, it's tougher and tougher to distinguish, are we talking with AI versus are we talking with a human?

Did that email come from a human?

Is it from AI?

And so there's a growing call from some leaders, including AI and tech experts, for companies to just take a step back in this effort to create superintelligence.

This kind of makes me think about that conversation we had with Brad Smith, and he talked about how every technology can either be a tool or a weapon.