Mary Jordan

The irony is her husband's brutal crackdown, his hard line on immigration makes it kind of more disappointing to many people.

And I've heard that over and over when I was talking to people.

But you were talking about power, and I think this is really important, is that Melani has way more power than people realize.

She has all the secrets on Donald Trump.

If she walked out on him right now and she's like, bye-bye, Donald, you know, his fan base would hate it.

Meghan would hate it.

You know, political spouse, as you mentioned, can be an important role.

We know that some have played important roles in politics in the past.

I think even Jill Biden was an important figure in former President Biden's reelection campaign.

Do we know, outside of what she projected in the movie, is she exerting any influence?

on him politically?

Is there any way that, you know, as you even mentioned, stuff like the immigration crackdown, that someone like Melania Trump might become a bigger figure going forward?

I definitely think she has influence.

And when she told me and she's told others that I give him my opinion, he doesn't always take it.

Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't.

But I know, for instance, that he relies on her because he trusts her.

You know, her last name is Trump, and her son's last name is Trump.

She wants Trump to succeed.

And the longer Donald has been in the White House, the circle of people he trusts is shrunken.

She's been called into meetings when he wants to, hey, should I have this person for this job or this person?