Mary Jordan

And she tells him.

So he does rely on her because he trusts her.

She has never once...

Rang up some journalists and said, I got a story for you about Donald Trump and women or Donald Trump and Epstein.

I mean, she could do that.

She has definitely stuck by him.

And I think that's been important, as you mentioned.

I mean, I don't want to move on from the ethics of here a little too fast, though.

Like, what do we know about what comes next for Melania Trump?

She hasn't said, but it's very noticeable how she appears happier and more confident now in public.

But some of that is just more experience in the public eye.

So I have no doubt that she's going to continue her business deal.

She's done a bestselling book.

She's now done this movie that's made her millions.

She has all kinds of jewelry and things that you can buy on MelaniaTrump.com.

She says in the movie that she wants to talk to other people.

leaders around the world and have a coalition to help children.

I think she can pivot very quickly.

She is actually quite young.

She's only 55.