Mary McCarthy

It's just quite simple, you know?

So I would say we need to kind of don't... Like, we need to actually don't build a roof before we build a foundation.

So we should do all... We should try everything, David, is what I'm saying.

Throw everything at it.

Do all the housing...

like I would say more child allowance, like free GP care for all ages, all that kind of stuff.

But you've got to have pro-hooking up kind of incentives too.

So I'm not saying we say, look, you're going to be any... I've loads of friends who don't have kids.

That's fine.

Nobody is saying that it's a lesser choice.

But what we should be doing is, I would say sex education needs to change.

Like, none of my teenagers have ever heard anything about fertility.

That conversation has never happened.

So, you know, I think maybe we could just make them aware.

And I know we are aware, women are aware, but are we really?

I don't know.

Subsidised gyms, subsidised dance floors, like running groups and work, like throw everything at us.

You know, the UK just announced social media bans for under 16s today.

I think that has actually got a part in it because...

We want to take people off their phones into the world.