Matt Clifford

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475 appearances 20 recordings 6 series first heard Jan 2026 last heard 21 Aug

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I don't know.

Critical national infrastructure goes down.

Do you think this applies... We've talked a lot about what I would call national security type risks today.

Yeah.

for understandable reasons.

For the rest of this miniseries, we spoke a lot about the economic impacts.

Obviously, I think your new role, Anthropic, or new-ish role, at least in part, is very focused on this.

Well, first, maybe just headline.

What do you think?

There's a lot of talk about jobs apocalypse.

There's a lot of talk about differential impacts within and across countries.

Where do you think we are on that?

And then I'd love to dive into a little bit.

What do you think governments should do on that?

But you don't think that your vision of RSI, this recursive self-improvement is incompatible with the world of human labor?

or you do?

Sounds like a good argument for investing in domestic compute infrastructure.

Well, maybe this is the very last one, given that you mentioned your kids.

The number one question I got after doing this miniseries with Rory at the end of last year was, I was the optimist, by the way, on the show.

You might be surprised to hear.

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