Matt Jones

Like, how do you how do you decide which one to believe if you don't have the time to process all of this?

But most people don't want to do that.

And I would argue there's no incentive now in media to be, well, it's complicated.

I mean, I remember when Rush Limbaugh died.

I'm a radio guy, and even though I thought Rush Limbaugh was horrendously awful at times for culture, it's objectively true he's one of the two or three biggest radio personalities in history and completely changed the medium.

And I wrote on Twitter, RIP Rush Limbaugh.

you can't help but argue along with Howard Stern and one or two other people was the main move mover of radio in the late 20th century.

And liberal friends of mine sent me the meanest things in the world.

And just like, how could you salute him?

And I just said, well, he just died.

I mean, like, why do you have to be mean to somebody on the day they died?

Conservatives have the same thing.

If they just go, well, maybe he shouldn't, Trump shouldn't say this.

They get crushed.

It's hard to take those positions in today's world, isn't it?

OK, but you also like you're also at a place that really seems to want to value that.

Not every media outlet does, do they?

It does.

But I would say I want to be careful because I don't want to put you in a position where I'm talking about the entity.

But there are but like if you work at Fox News or you work at MSNBC, even if you want to sort of do what we're talking about, you might have incentives that make it virtually impossible for you.