Matt Ristel

I mean, it's certainly well into the tens of thousands, like well into the mid-tens of thousands.

Those are companies, yeah.

I mean, we have hundreds of thousands, soon to be millions, like very soon to be millions of paid users.

Yes.

Uh, again, I don't want to, I mean, that kind of gives us, uh, so I can't, I can't really share those kinds of numbers, but you get a general idea.

And again, this is our fifth year in a row, even at scale where we're growing at a hundred percent year over year.

Do I like to put my back against the wall?

Right.

And I, I,

Prefer not to have my back against the wall, but we ended up putting ourselves there.

So we had an outcome.

You know, I had sold my last company and it was a pretty it was a good outcome for myself and for my family.

It wasn't like, you know, unlimited funds where you never have to work again, sort of a deal.

But it was, you know, it was certainly a good position to be in.

And then when we started this, and you invest the first couple hundred thousand, and then you start working into your reserves, pretty soon your back is against the wall really quickly.

How much capital have you raised to date?

A few hundred thousand seed capital, and then we raised a $15 million Series A exactly two years ago.

Um, well actually since 2010, when we really started to crack the code, we've been cashflow break even ever since.

Yep.

And we don't have any intentions of touching our series a.