Matthew Kohut

You know, either you're there for people and they know they can have a direct line with you or you're not.

And yeah, I also think it's just not true usually.

Very good, Mick.

Thanks so much for having me.

Well, likewise.

Right back at you.

For me, because communication is at the heart of everything that we do as human animals.

It's how we get along with our friends, our family, our people we work with, the people who enable us to do the things that inspire us to reach whatever heights we're seeking to climb.

And so communication gets me out of bed in the morning.

Just the commitment to making people as good at it as they can possibly be is always something that makes me... It just hasn't bored me yet.

You know, it emerged for me.

I don't want to make it sound like it was just something that I had the same way that a great athlete knows in high school.

They've got this thing.

I was a writer by training, if you will, first and foremost, and that came pretty naturally.

But the thing that really changed that or shifted that for me was when I was graduating

sort of baby speech writer for a couple of different folks i knew a couple other speech writers who were struggling and we kept wondering why are some people good at speaking why are other people struggling with it and it led us on a little bit of a journey together to try and figure that out

And that mystery unlocked the bigger question of communication for me.

Public speaking is one thing, and it's a very specific thing.

But just more broadly, how we relate to each other through the way we talk to each other, it just became this lifelong interest.

And the more I dug into it, the more I understood about it, of course, and the more I talked to hundreds and then thousands of people about their challenges with it.