Maya Shankar
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7 series
first heard Oct 2025
last heard 5 Jul
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created this rich, fertile environment for growth and allowed them to see themselves in the world in really new ways that ultimately unlocked freedom or a new way of seeing themselves or seeing their families or seeing their self identities that propelled them forward and led to a better version of themselves.
And I'm curious to know if you found something similar in all the research that you did for the book.
I mean, our books are similar in the focus on both science and stories, right?
And obviously you spent a lot of time interviewing people about their experiences of navigating uncertainty.
For those of us who have that gut level discomfort with uncertainty, right?
It sounds good to hear you say, oh, there's possibility on the other side of uncertainty.
But what is your advice for how to actually embrace it?
Because I think for many of us, it's very challenging to just overcome the physical feelings of nausea that we have when we are up against the unknown.
You're like a platitude.
One of the most meaningful stories that I wrote about in the book concerns a guy named Dwayne Betts, Reginald Dwayne Betts.
And yeah, he was sentenced to nine years in adult prison as a 16-year-old for a carjacking he committed.
And Duane had been a very promising student.
He was class treasurer.
He had his sights set on going to Georgia Tech.
He had been ID'd as talented and gifted.
He was a wonderfully loving and devoted son to his mom.
He had so much promise.
And in a moment, in an effort to try to prove his machismo to the boys in his neighborhood, to prove his toughness, he did this terrible thing and then got this incredibly long prison sentence as a result.
And what was so fascinating for me in writing The Other Side of Change was to probe people's interior lives and figure out what it was about the change that was scariest for them.
And what was so interesting is Duane told me,
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