Melissa Chan-Green

But you do still need to...

to know at what point to raise challenges, right?

And you need to be aware of that.

But that kind of becomes, that comes after they start school.

I mean, there are some challenges that are good to identify early too, but... We have a lot of early childhoods that are using our...

That is interesting because we often talk about risk in terms of physical risk.

And that's a way to teach it, right?

One of the ways to teach it.

But actually, what you're saying is that the detriment of not being able to take risks isn't just showing through in terms of physicality.

It shows through in what you're willing to do in a learning setting.

In the younger years, it is.

Yeah.

So how do you do that?

Is that really focusing on...

praising for effort rather than outcome.

Yeah.

Okay, so trying not to make it about the reward for what you've done is my praise.

The reward for what you've done is actually the fact that you just did that.

Yeah.

What would you do if you had a magic wand in education?