Melissa Kircher

And so fives respond and try to handle that by being very independent, by meeting their own needs.

Gathering knowledge and information is really important to fives in order to feel like they have enough knowledge and competence to then do what is needed to be done, either for others, for their jobs, for their family members, for their own life.

or even to just keep themselves safe.

It is a lot about knowledge.

They're very up in their head, don't tend to compartmentalize feelings and need to kind of get into the body.

And yet they also bring knowledge

such rationality and logic to the world.

It's a real gift to have a five in a kind of tumultuous situation with you because not only are they calm, they really want to understand what's actually going on and they can be very neutral in that kind of understanding.

So there really can be a safe space for lots of different opinions and keeping it copacetic, but in a way that is inviting real true

knowledge, logic, reason, and understanding.

So that makes sense why you are a life coach and you like to help people.

That tracks.

Honestly, I'm an artist and a writer first and stumbled onto the life coaching.

And then when I did, I was like, oh, I have been a life coach all day long and I didn't realize it.

I was like, oh, I've been doing this with my friends and family the whole dang time.

So yeah, it was a fun surprise.

Oh, I love that.

The true calling just happenstance by way of the Enneagram, which I think is really cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.