Michael Franzese

No, not if your name is John Gotti, Sonny Francis, Michael Francis, Fat Tony Salerno, Joe Colombo.

No, I don't think that's unreasonable that law enforcement would break the law in order to catch somebody that they think is a name like that.

I've seen it happen.

By suborning perjury.

by holding back a sculpatory material at a trial, by FBI agents coercing people into testifying, coercing people into going undercover against people.

I've seen that my whole life.

Of course.

Thank you.

You just made my point.

No, I know.

But it's not definite, right?

And I would say the vast majority of police officers, they're not doing that because of the amount of work.

But of course, we can agree that it does happen.

There's too many people, too many variables for it to say it never happens.

I don't think that's the claim.

I think it depends upon who the targets are.

Certain law enforcement people build their careers on the names of people that they go after.

Certainly with John Gotti, certainly with my dad, Sonny Francis, with me to a certain extent.

You have to admit that big names give people in law enforcement an incentive to work a little bit harder to bring them down because you get rewarded for that.

Because what comes with those big names?