Michael Franzese

The fear of retaliation from our own people, from the boss, you screw up, you're going to get killed, you're going to get in trouble.

Well, that fear was transferred to the government when the RICO Act came out because now guys are going away for life.

And they're getting whatever asset, if they had any assets, taken away.

So now you stick them in a room and you say, hey, you're going to cooperate with us.

You're going to wire yourself up.

You're going to do what you got to do.

We'll pay you money because you don't have to worry about the guy you're talking about.

We're putting him away for life.

When you put that incentive in front of a paid informant, trust me, they're gonna go along with you and they'll get on the stand and they'll lie and they'll do whatever they have to do.

And I will say this, I can tell you straight out that the government knows that many of these informants are lying and they don't care.

As long as they win their case, they don't care.

Now, I'm not saying that's you.

No, I'll have to disagree.

This is my experience.

I'll have to, and I can't negate your experience.

You can disagree, but I'm telling you, I've been through it.

The bad apple doesn't define a bad orchard, okay?

I understand that.

But the point is, is paying these guys, giving them incentive to lie.

And it absolutely is.