Michael Landsberg

You could show anger for sure, but you couldn't show sadness.

And so understanding what an illness like depression or anxiety or bipolar or OCD, you know, they're kind of all grouped together.

ADHD, it's kind of like this big mess in our heads.

And some people get a little of this and a little of that.

But I think it's understanding the fact that it's not what you think it is.

You know, I thought a lot about this before coming on.

And I thought hockey is maybe the best example of...

how to talk about mental health because you guys you know had a code right you played with the hockey code and the code told you certain things i mean we all know about the code i didn't play hockey but i know about the code talked about the code all the time and then one day i realized you know we men live by that same code we we like like whether you played hockey or not you live by the code you know the rules of the code handle it yourself you're a man no one's coming

don't show weakness ever because you're a man act like it.

And all of these rules that existed in hockey exist in a man's life.

And we need to accept the fact that we're living by these ridiculous rules.

They were great in hockey, right?

You know, like they keep guys on the ice, they keep guys playing all kinds of shit.

But when it comes to men living their life,

You know, that's a great question.

And there's no real great answer to it because everybody's different.

But, you know, how do you see, let me put it this way, okay?

I'll give you an example of how tough it is.

I did probably in my career, a thousand shows severely depressed where I just, I hated everything about my life.

I hated everything about who I was.