Michael Shermer

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4,120 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 9 Jul

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American Alchemy with Jesse Michels · I Debated UFOs With America’s Top Skeptic (It Got Ugly…) · 9 Jul 2026 podcast

So two years ago when Trump was rerunning for president, fall of 24, there was the New Jersey swarm, UFO swarm, UAP swarm.

All right.

So are these drones or whatever?

And yes.

So Trump gets in there and goes, well, I'm going to find out what's going on here.

So he sends his people in and they come back.

It was nothing.

It's just normal drones and planes and stuff like that.

And one of the effects is that's a heavily trafficked area.

So the base rate, like the Bermuda Triangle, how come there's more ships and planes crashing there?

Because that's where most ships and planes go is in that little area.

Right.

New Jersey is a very crowded area with a lot of airports, LaGuardia and JFK and so on, all this stuff.

And so there's a lot of stuff going on there.

Then there's commercial drones, which are now popular.

And then the other effect is that people are going outdoors and looking up in the sky because they've heard the news reports like, oh, my God, there's something going on.

The sky's over New Jersey.

They look up.

Most people don't ever look up at the skies at night.

They're busy.

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