Michelle Segar

5,000 times or whatever it is, where every single time I'm like, I'm glad I did that.

I would expect that I would just want to do it.

Like I would run to do it.

But of course, that is not the case, right?

I still face resistance.

But changing those two things has made a really big difference.

It depends.

Yes, some of my exercise is intense.

It's more than walking, although I do really embody a little bit of something is better than a lot of nothing because ultimately I will just default to, if I'm really struggling, just move in some way.

Right.

The plan, yes, does have some degree of what would be considered strenuous.

Okay.

Not miserable.

Okay.

I'm not like every single time I'm like, I'm going to do the hardest hit workout there is.

That is, I'm not there.

But it does involve, yes, some degree of strain.

I've often said that depression hates a moving target, but there's a cruel irony in there because moving is one of the hardest things to do with depression.

And similarly, when we most need a therapist, it is often when we have the least ability to sort through the complex mess of finding one, which is why I'm such a big fan of what Alma is doing.

They've made the search part simple because that's often the thing standing between us and getting help.