Mike Delaney

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So I think because we've lost community and a trusted community, now we kind of have to rebuild what that looks like for us.
so i'm glad you brought that up because i think that's something that i feel that the food industry as a whole is going to have to deal with really heavily especially since you have consumers involved you have opinions involved all this tracking now traceability is a huge thing in the food industry huge now what does that mean for data where is that going who's protecting it how much are we tracking the consumer is the consumer going to be able to follow the seed that made their bread all the way through the chain is that something we're going to give them access to i mean that's
you know and and and the question i have and then you know ed i'll defer to those that are much more savvy in technology but you know there's been discussion about you know relying on blockchain those sorts of technologies to help map you know forward to table kind of process yeah you know and and And I think the belief is that blockchain is somehow infallible, which I don't think is true.
But you have the risk that creating, and we need, because I think it's important to know where your food comes from. Traceability paradigm creates a dilemma because that is yet another point where they can intrude and insert, use our chaos, where they can change the facts that are in traceability path. And then that's where you start then to build on the other side of it, the misinformation.
You know, you can create chaos. You can create a panic at a very basic level. Particularly if you did it during a point where maybe everyone's on a heightened level of panic, right? What if somebody did that during the COVID pandemic? Right. Well, we're all paranoid about everything anyway. And now all of a sudden someone came in and attacked our food chain.
And we can't even trust, you know, where our fruit's coming from at the moment because it's a real challenge we have. And it is a, well, I know you've been in this sector for quite a while. For the common person, this is a newer, newer, you know, reality.
This is, you know, now we've seen, you know, I think we all now have the pleasure of having our social security numbers now hacked and distributed. But it's impacting people on a much more routine basis, right? Yeah. In your basic email, you're probably getting spoof emails from, you know, the various scams out there all the time. And God forbid you click on one.
But, you know, UPS wants to tell me desperately about this package that's sitting in the warehouse that I, you know, I must click on the link to get the information. You know, if that email doesn't come five times a day, it's not coming. So the fact is, is we're all vulnerable to this. Yeah.
These hackers are, you know, they're testing everywhere they can and they're pushing into every sector, every business. My prior law firm had an infiltration and we had a number of clients have data access issues as a result. That's not good. It's not. And one of the largest food manufacturers out there was a client had 50,000 of their employee records were accessed.
I could pierce through the law firm to get to it. And so, you know, and obviously in the law firm, to their credit, we had lots of training. We had lots and lots of cyber training. And we talked about phishing. They would do, they would come in and get an email and it would be like, you know, Hey, Mike, here's a document we need to continue to work on.
You know, you can click this link to get access to the data shield site. And I sent it to the IT guys. I'm like, I don't think this is real. They're like, ah, congratulations. You figured out our little trick of the day, you know, because they did test us. It's a constant. And so food manufacturers are going to face it. And it's not just their own systems. There's attacks from all different angles.
Like we talked about, it could be the manufacturers making donuts. They're fine. Put it on the truck and that trucking company has a problem. It is a complex web we have to supply food to our country. And we initially came out and food security was not focused on cybersecurity or even protecting the food itself. But more food security was the security of knowing your next meal is going to pay.
You know, the inner cities or rural communities that don't have a lot of access to food, they have a family dollar or that's it. You know, they have food insecurity. So that was where our mind was a decade ago. Food insecurity was getting food.
Now, food security is not just getting food, it's making sure the food is edible, it's safe, and that once it's gone off the shelf, the truck's going to come and fill it again. And, you know, so getting more complex. And I think technology, as much as it's supposed to make our lives easier, and it will, but it also makes it more complex, at least for folks who deal with IT problems. Exactly.
Yeah. And I think I forget sometimes the lack of knowledge that people have how cyber attacks happen or what they actually where they're coming from. I feel like people read the news and or I think they listen to the news. So I would assume they kind of know where it comes from. But then it dawns on me they don't really do it justice.
Well, before we get on the call, you mentioned that these are all shell companies. They have their own marketing teams and their HR teams and they act like a normal corporate environment. But they're a hacker gang, you know, and some of those people are forced to work there because extortion and other things. It is it's not just the hacker and the hoodie any longer. It's the.
They got they got brand names. They got Lockbit and Black Cat. Yeah. The FBI now is worried about one called Snatch. I don't know if that's the hit movie or what.
I don't know. I just I find it to be really interesting. I don't know if you've seen the movie The Beekeeper yet, Jason Stamos' new one. It's actually all about what happens when a scam artist and some hackers get in and steal money from an older woman and what he does to them. I feel like it's a victory movie for all of us who work in the industry. However, it is quite violent.
But I do feel like it's an important movie for people to watch if you can stomach violence to understand the extreme lengths that they go to to get your money and how they scam people, especially the elderly. And as a human being, it's just so frustrating that humans are so awful to each other.
know like it's this is absurd but this has been happening on every level since the dawn of time extortion happens and this is just a new way of doing it but it's it's exactly and it's in it's in real time for us because we're seeing it thanks internet and it's hard so i think a lot of it comes down to awareness so i appreciated that you had an awareness moment with me because and then reminding me that i need to be more proactive in explaining it to people yeah
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