Mike Delaney

makes themselves the official IT security person and then does things without blessing and potentially becomes an insider threat. I saw that time and time again at any factory I've ever stepped into. It didn't matter if it was food or not. There was always a few people that just took it upon themselves to circumvent controls because it was halting production and safety.

makes themselves the official IT security person and then does things without blessing and potentially becomes an insider threat. I saw that time and time again at any factory I've ever stepped into. It didn't matter if it was food or not. There was always a few people that just took it upon themselves to circumvent controls because it was halting production and safety.

If it's those two things are interrupted, they don't want it.

If it's those two things are interrupted, they don't want it.

And we had fatalities resulting from the avoidance or the safety rules because they were viewed as a hindrance to the operation, getting things done. So they did. They had these workarounds and things like that. stuff.

And we had fatalities resulting from the avoidance or the safety rules because they were viewed as a hindrance to the operation, getting things done. So they did. They had these workarounds and things like that. stuff.

And where I get worried about when we start continuing to enhance and get more dependent upon computer systems and our technology, if you recall, the whole point of putting in our ERP system was order to cash, right? So it lived the whole life cycle of product.

And where I get worried about when we start continuing to enhance and get more dependent upon computer systems and our technology, if you recall, the whole point of putting in our ERP system was order to cash, right? So it lived the whole life cycle of product.

Now, you may have opportunities where individuals can go in and do things like you mentioned, moving access points, data points, Wi-Fi points. But then there's also the other risk where it's inflexible and you're not able to do a And when someone makes an intrusion into your system and messes up your supply delivery to your manufacturing and it seizes up and stops, right?

Now, you may have opportunities where individuals can go in and do things like you mentioned, moving access points, data points, Wi-Fi points. But then there's also the other risk where it's inflexible and you're not able to do a And when someone makes an intrusion into your system and messes up your supply delivery to your manufacturing and it seizes up and stops, right?

Or if you think about what we experienced when we flipped the switch turning on our ERP system, it wasn't ready yet.

Or if you think about what we experienced when we flipped the switch turning on our ERP system, it wasn't ready yet.

and where we really saw issues was warehouse and rigid nature of the computer system was like I need you to pick that pallet out oh yeah I realize it's 10 pallets behind the other ones but move all those and get that one even though they're all identical because that's the one that I know has the right numbers on it and if you you can just speculate all kinds of different ways bad actors infiltrate your system and it was chaos that isn't even putting someone in danger or anything else just simply messing it up just chaos just chaos agents yeah fixing chaos

and where we really saw issues was warehouse and rigid nature of the computer system was like I need you to pick that pallet out oh yeah I realize it's 10 pallets behind the other ones but move all those and get that one even though they're all identical because that's the one that I know has the right numbers on it and if you you can just speculate all kinds of different ways bad actors infiltrate your system and it was chaos that isn't even putting someone in danger or anything else just simply messing it up just chaos just chaos agents yeah fixing chaos

itself, it takes so much time and money and it could put a company into bankruptcy if you can't deliver your products. So it's filled with risk.

itself, it takes so much time and money and it could put a company into bankruptcy if you can't deliver your products. So it's filled with risk.

There's so much and we're not even touching like the food safety aspect, because if you got that component in it, then if you have chaos and a food safety problem or potential food safety problem, whether it's contamination or any kind of adulteration on the line or any of that other stuff, then you got a catastrophe happening.

There's so much and we're not even touching like the food safety aspect, because if you got that component in it, then if you have chaos and a food safety problem or potential food safety problem, whether it's contamination or any kind of adulteration on the line or any of that other stuff, then you got a catastrophe happening.

We narrowly avoided some of those, but I think we also went through some of those. And I'm not saying like there was food safety issues necessarily. I'm just saying like every day presented a new set of things. And there was always some type of, as you said, fun times at the bakery, you know, in general. And And people think that this doesn't happen.

We narrowly avoided some of those, but I think we also went through some of those. And I'm not saying like there was food safety issues necessarily. I'm just saying like every day presented a new set of things. And there was always some type of, as you said, fun times at the bakery, you know, in general. And And people think that this doesn't happen.