Mike Holcomb

That really brings people together into, again, kind of like you're mentioning in IT, it's okay, we're protecting data or we want to keep the company from going down for ransomware, which are all very, you know, worthy missions for sure.

That really brings people together into, again, kind of like you're mentioning in IT, it's okay, we're protecting data or we want to keep the company from going down for ransomware, which are all very, you know, worthy missions for sure.

But when we talk about, you know, making sure we're preventing loss of life or somebody from getting hurt or making sure food does get on your table or there's electricity when you flip on the switch or clean water when you turn the faucet on. But yeah, I mean, that's it. It's just a whole other level and people really bond over that mission.

But when we talk about, you know, making sure we're preventing loss of life or somebody from getting hurt or making sure food does get on your table or there's electricity when you flip on the switch or clean water when you turn the faucet on. But yeah, I mean, that's it. It's just a whole other level and people really bond over that mission.

I think it really, really clicks and the vast majority of people in the field are very welcoming. There's a few that aren't, but overall the vast majority are and it's really, really great to see.

I think it really, really clicks and the vast majority of people in the field are very welcoming. There's a few that aren't, but overall the vast majority are and it's really, really great to see.

it's a fun game we play on dates sometimes which is probably means we're extra nerdy but that's okay it is yeah i always say like yeah like in it a lot of us can be nerdy but in ics ot we are nerdy to the extreme i think especially that if you've ever met you know many like tried and true engineers right very like nerdy to the nerdy you know degree but all in a good way right i'm

it's a fun game we play on dates sometimes which is probably means we're extra nerdy but that's okay it is yeah i always say like yeah like in it a lot of us can be nerdy but in ics ot we are nerdy to the extreme i think especially that if you've ever met you know many like tried and true engineers right very like nerdy to the nerdy you know degree but all in a good way right i'm

not trying to make fun of anybody all in a good way.

not trying to make fun of anybody all in a good way.

i think that's a lot more intimidating or if you know you're going to be like broadcasted in front of a couple thousand people that certainly could stress you out yeah yeah and that's i think a big part of b-size really it's just embracing kind of the the day and the people that are there and like i said you just people from from all different backgrounds and perspectives and and uh yeah i'm really excited to see i already have some great people that have submitted talks and

i think that's a lot more intimidating or if you know you're going to be like broadcasted in front of a couple thousand people that certainly could stress you out yeah yeah and that's i think a big part of b-size really it's just embracing kind of the the day and the people that are there and like i said you just people from from all different backgrounds and perspectives and and uh yeah i'm really excited to see i already have some great people that have submitted talks and

and definitely encourage people to go to the besidesics.org to submit talks if they're listening to this before the event uh because we love to have you know as many different folks and perspectives there yeah i'm so thrilled that we're doing this like this is why didn't we do this sooner that's what i keep thinking but here we are it works right yes

and definitely encourage people to go to the besidesics.org to submit talks if they're listening to this before the event uh because we love to have you know as many different folks and perspectives there yeah i'm so thrilled that we're doing this like this is why didn't we do this sooner that's what i keep thinking but here we are it works right yes

Yeah, I think I would say maybe take a step back a little bit. We talk about ICSOT cybersecurity, there's always these overlooked areas. Uh, food and agriculture definitely being one of those, uh, mining is another, we see, um, even water wastewater. Now they've gotten a lot of visibility since the cyber Avengers attacks that started at the end of last year.

Yeah, I think I would say maybe take a step back a little bit. We talk about ICSOT cybersecurity, there's always these overlooked areas. Uh, food and agriculture definitely being one of those, uh, mining is another, we see, um, even water wastewater. Now they've gotten a lot of visibility since the cyber Avengers attacks that started at the end of last year.

Um, but, but yeah, I mean, you have a lot of these often ignored underrepresented groups for, for, for many, many reasons, unfortunately. Um, and I think just with the, you know, the conversations with you, uh, there's actually a gentleman that, um, this goes back probably a year and a half ago.

Um, but, but yeah, I mean, you have a lot of these often ignored underrepresented groups for, for, for many, many reasons, unfortunately. Um, and I think just with the, you know, the conversations with you, uh, there's actually a gentleman that, um, this goes back probably a year and a half ago.

I was really fascinated with, he was on, and I feel bad, I forget his name, um, that he was on with Andrew Ginter on the waterfall, the industrial cybersecurity podcast there. And he was talking about mostly, you know, the impact to farming and from an OT cybersecurity perspective.

I was really fascinated with, he was on, and I feel bad, I forget his name, um, that he was on with Andrew Ginter on the waterfall, the industrial cybersecurity podcast there. And he was talking about mostly, you know, the impact to farming and from an OT cybersecurity perspective.