Mike Webber

Video surveillance is indispensable in these cases if you can get it, right?

Different states, different laws, different hospitals have different practices.

From one children's hospital to the next, it may be completely different policies.

But if you can have video surveillance on these cases, it can provide great evidence like this evidence, right?

So we know that she doesn't want her child to get better because she's not giving her the medication that is needed.

And I don't know Washington law.

I do know Texas law.

If this had happened in Texas and she developed a blood clot after mom was seen dumping that medication, then under my state law, that would be a substantial risk of death.

So that would be injury to child serious bodily injury because there was a substantial risk of death just on that one act alone.

Correct.

And separation test is the gold standard, right?

And what we see in a lot of these cases, if it really is medical child abuse, once you separate the offender from that child and you let that child be a normal child, eat, what you see is they don't have the medical ailments described by the offender.

I mean, going to eating by mouth in that short of a time period with that weight gain is huge evidence of medical child abuse.

And that's a problem.

Because you cannot place with anyone that believes the offender is innocent.

Because...

You will get, as I've seen in one case, we actually had much housing by proxy by proxy where a CPS investigator went to the doctor's appointment when the child was placed with maternal grandparents.

And they got to the doctor's appointment and they called mom on the phone to give the doctor medical history.

You know, I mean, you cannot make that placement.

These offenders are extremely manipulative, especially with loved ones who don't believe that they're guilty.