Mike Zisman

Our plan right now is a little over 60.

We will not hit the roll of 40 this year.

Our growth is to get bigger and bigger.

It's harder and harder.

If you look at SaaS companies, it's fascinating.

It makes perfect sense.

If you look at SaaS companies, as the companies have got larger, the growth rate's gone down.

Well, so, you know, when we came into the market and really started selling to clubs in 2014, as I said, when you do an acquisition, it's some combination of technology or product, talent and customers.

The best acquisitions are all three.

Some of them is just buying customers.

So our first goal was let's go get those customers.

We had no interest whatsoever in their old desktop software, but we acquired a whole bunch of customers.

And then after that was really an acquihire, a guy who wanted to be in the business.

It was clear, like, just come join up with us.

And then we acquired a few other firms.

And then, you know, in 2023,

We made the strategic decision.

It was important to expand from B2B, selling to clubs, to B2C, selling directly to golfers.

There's a lot more golfers than clubs, right?

And so, you know, we entered that market with two acquisitions, you know, Golf Shot and Swing U that have been able to put them together.