Mike Zisman

I'm not sure which.

Maybe.

But to me, I want to make sure my philosophy of company is we're all in this together.

I like to say I couldn't build a company with 300 Mike Sisman.

I have different skills.

I couldn't build a company with 300 Alex's who runs development.

What I love about an entrepreneurial company is bringing together a bunch of people with different skills to accomplish something none of them could accomplish on their own.

That's what a company is about.

Can you bring together a set of skills, marketing skills, sales skills, finance skills, development skills, support skills, to accomplish something together as a team that none of us accomplish on our own?

To me, that's where the juice is in being an entrepreneur.

Well, that's probably not quite right.

Let's say me and the other seniors own 30%, 40%.

Still.

It's a lot.

Same concept.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a, to me, it's what's very gratifying is that, you know, and so we're all, you know, as I like to say, we're all pulling on the same side of the road.

We all have the same motivations.

Yeah, more like 54, 53 million.