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Mike Zisman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
264 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

Started the first company, SoftSwitch, which was in the communication software business.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

It was very low-level communication software sold to Fortune 500 companies.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

That was acquired by Lotus Development in 1994.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

And then lo and behold, 11 months later, IBM came along and acquired Lotus.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

So in 11 months, I went from a company of 450 people, my company, to Lotus, which was 6,000, to IBM, which was a quarter million.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

They were different.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

Trust me, they were different.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

Not good versus bad, because it's amazing what you can accomplish when you have a quarter million people trying to do something.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

And I stayed at IBM for a while.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

I worked with Lou Gerstner, who was this fantastic CEO.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

He turned around IBM, absolutely.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

And then that kind of ran its course and left IBM in 07.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

You know, I really don't want to retire.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

I love what I do.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

I mean, I was always the guy organizing the buddy golf trip.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

You know, 12 guys go off someplace to play golf.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

We're still servicing.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

It's a small market, a very price sensitive market.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

And move from that to golf leagues.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC โ€” Mike Zisman

And so instead of 12 guys playing six rounds of golf, you got, you know, 60 guys playing 20 rounds of golf and then move from that to selling to clubs.