Molly Graham

And I was like, they're in the trunk because, you know, brother, creative, not me.

And she was like, what would happen if they were behind the wheel?

What would they want?

What would they say?

What would they say you should do?

And for me, that exercise was very uncomfortable.

I was like, I don't know.

I don't even know how to talk to this person.

They've been in the trunk for years, you know, but it did lead to a very different set of conversations than it letting this sort of like ego driven achiever voice guide.

So it's

It doesn't mean the creative self should always be, you know, in my case, like always be in the driver's seat.

It's more like the act of giving that voice a louder seat, a more prominent seat, really bring stuff out of you that you're like, huh, these are questions I never ask.

Yeah, and I think where does that script come from?

You know, it comes from siblings, it comes from parents, right?

I always call it your programming, like you grew up somewhere, someone gave you a set of messages, it can come from school too, and things like that.

But most often, it comes from something in our family.

And I feel like making some of these decisions often forces you to ask, like, who's in charge?

And who should be in charge?

And like, who's the healthiest voice to listen to?

And like, why?