Mouin Rabbani
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first heard Mar 2024
last heard Mar 2024
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I've never been asked for a moral judgment on an Israeli action. Exclusive request for condemnation has to do with what Palestinianism, and just as importantly, I'm sure if you watch BBC or CNN, when is the last time an Israeli spokesperson has been asked to condemn an Israeli act? I've never seen it.
No, but now that we're talking about Israeli victims, all of a sudden morality is central.
Sorry, if I can interrupt you. In 1948, the entire world stood behind the establishment of a Jewish state in the entire world.
Okay, but I think you know what I mean by that.
I don't think there's a maybe there at the
By accepting the Oslo Agreement.
I think the problem with your statement is that if you go back and listen to it, the first part of it is war is hell, civilians die. It's a fact of life. And you state that in a very factual matter. Then when you start talking about Hamas, all of a sudden you've discovered morality, and you've discovered condemnation, and you've discovered intent, and you are unfortunately far from alone in this.
Even the Amnesty International in 2008 and in 2014 and even today will continue to say that it's like the types of attacks— I don't think you'll find anyone who will deny that Hamas has targeted civilians. Sure. You gave the example of— But there's a difference— Of suicide bombings during the Second Intifada. I mean, facts are facts.
Yeah, but the idea that Israel is not in the business of intentionally targeting civilians, I know that's what we're supposed to believe. But the historical record stands very clearly.
I'd just like to make... The way you characterized it, I think the best example of that I've come across during this specific conflict is John Kirby, the White House spokesman. I've named him Tears Tossed Her Own for a very good reason. When he's talking about Palestinian civilian deaths, war is hell, it's a fact of life, get used to it.
When he was confronted with Israeli civilian deaths on October 7th, he literally broke down in tears.
He understood that. No, that's what he tried to make us understand.
I'm willing to grant you. You don't have to pursue it. Allow me to finish. I don't know anything about this. I'd like to hear it.
He didn't say they're a waste of time. I'd like to respond to what you were saying. I think the question that we're trying to answer... I think you don't understand Israel.
Now it works. I think we're all agreed that Palestinians have deliberately targeted civilians. whether we're talking about Hamas and Islamic Jihad today or previously... I prefer the word murdered and raped rather than targeted.
I'm not talking about... I'm talking about this now. Yeah, but I'm trying to answer his question. Historically, there is substantial evidence that Palestinians have targeted civilians, whether it's been incidental or systematic is a different discussion. I don't want to get into that now. For some reason, there seems to be a huge debate about whether
any Israeli has ever sunk so low as to target a civilian.
If I understand you correctly, you're basically making the claim that that none of these attacks could have happened without going through an entire chain of command.
My understanding of the Israeli military, and you could perhaps, you've served in it, you would know better, It's actually a fairly chaotic organization.
Well, my understanding of the Israeli military is that it's quite chaotic and there's also a lot of testimonies from Israel, but be that as it may, okay, I'm prepared to accept both of your contentions that it's a highly organized and disciplined force. Air Force under any scenario is going to be more organized than the other branches. And you're saying such a strike would have been inconceivable.
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