Naomi Saks

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374 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Feb 2024 last heard Sep 2024

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Great to be here.
I do.
What's it called again?
Thank you.
did, I really did.
Um, because it really talks about this beautiful uh experience of our beloved, which is ourselves, the part that we often um cut out of the equation.
And so I just thought it was really beautiful.
So really good question.
One, I always let people name their own experience.
So that is one of the things I've learned and all the people I work with teach me is actually we ask people what they what they call it, what they call their experience.
But there's been a big shift, I would say, in the last five or ten years.
Of programs that focus on this idea that if you just were good enough and better, we're gonna burn you out and ask you to do yoga afterwards.
And if you were just if you were just strong enough and more organized, you could take care of yourself.
So people are are not so excited about this idea of resilience in the old fashioned way.
This idea that it's up to you if you were just if you could make it, if you could
Right.
So we know that we and in healthcare and all of our colleagues are some of the most resilient people that ever existed.
I mean, in other work hard working environments as well.
But that's where it extended to this whole idea of well being or flourishing or wholeness or sustainability.
This is this idea that eighty percent of burnout or moral injury is actually systemic, and only twenty percent is actually how we how we relate.
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