Nate Swanson

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685 appearances 5 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 10 Sep

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ABC News Daily · Will Trump 'blink first' and end the war? · 21 Apr 2026 podcast

They don't need to defeat the US or defeat Israel militarily.

They just need to survive.

And they're fighting an asymmetric war.

So every day that goes on that...

Iranian regime holds, that the Islamic Republic is still the face of the country, that's victory.

And so they've done that and they've shown that there's no immediate fall coming.

And in some ways they're stronger than they were.

So yeah, I think that defines them in victory.

And I think they also are emboldened by the straight as this new security guarantee that they really have lacked.

since Hezbollah was so thoroughly defeated in 2024.

So it's a new thing.

And you can understand why Iran feels that way.

But at the same time, they have been pummeled militarily.

I don't think there's any point in denying that.

I mean, I can't remember what the total number of strikes between US and Israel were.

But it's like well over, I think, 15 or 25,000 strikes.

I mean, so it is this long lasting damage that Iran has suffered.

But kind of paradoxically, they've

been hit so hard militarily, been pummeled militarily, but they've like re-established deterrence.

So you can understand why some in Iran feel like they've won so far.

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