Nate Swanson
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685 appearances
5 recordings
1 series
first heard Apr 2026
last heard 10 Sep
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Now, look, are we going to have a deal by Wednesday evening in Islamabad?
I'm skeptical.
I think there's still, you know, it seems like there's still pretty significant differences and gaps.
But I do think you could have something close to a framework and if needed, an extension on the ceasefire as well.
As shaky and rocky as that ceasefire is.
In some respects, yes, but in most respects, no.
I mean, I think it was not totally surprising that Iran escalated so quickly based on the scope and size of the initial US and Israeli attack.
But never, I think, would I ever have guessed that it would go this long and that it would be still so messy 50 days in without a clear idea of how exactly this ends and really still even at this point what the objective is.
Well, I'm a career civil servant across multiple administrations and, as you noted, with the Iran team at the end.
I do not have a personal relationship with President Trump by any measure.
Never briefed him, unlike other presidents.
But to his team, you know, when I was still there...
I think they were genuinely interested in diplomacy, but obviously there was a willingness to use force that was kind of unique from other administrations.
I think in his first term, he did the strike that killed Gossam Soleimani.
And then before I left, there was the Midnight Hammer operation that we did in connection with the Israelis.
So, I mean, Trump was clearly more comfortable using force than other U.S.
presidents.
And I think, yeah, he didn't really fully understand –
the risks associated and how a conflict could go bad so quickly.
So that is kind of unique to the president.
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