Nathalie Cabrol

to revolutions in cosmology, in astrobiology, in astronomy, which I think to me, this is where the hope lies.

And also an awakening of understanding that we need to be in equilibrium with the planet if we want to move forward.

Because even though we have these big dreams of going on Mars and the moon, and listen, I am a planetary geologist, so I am all for exploration.

Right now, the moon or Mars is not going to save your butt because for the logistics will still depend very much on the Earth and for a long time.

I think this time we are living in will be remembered as a pivot.

in our history for a number of reasons.

A time where there is a growing consciousness, where we are creating tools that are going a little bit ahead of us, that we have some difficult time to catching up on with, where we have to deal with a population that's way too big for the planet we have.

We need to really learn a sense of balance and maturity as a civilization.

So how is this going to unfold?

Right now, I have no clue.

We are clever teenagers.

There is definitely a threat of optimism, but I think it's thin.

It's thin because something that has changed as well is the mentality of humans.

Although the threat was terrifying when nuclear weapons were created, there was a sense of...

limits you were willing to push in the threats, there was a sense of decency, of moral values.

It was not perfect, but it was at least a time where people could come together from very different perspective and agree that something was more important than destroying everything.

No, absolutely not.

No, no, I agree with that.

In China and in Europe.

Absolutely, absolutely.