Nathan Barry

And we pulled it off, we had the app released, got to see it on day one and do all this.

And that sent me down this path of learning how to design for the iPhone and iPad specifically.

And then probably for the next two or three years, that was all I did.

I did other things too, but that's all I wanted to do.

Because it was just so much fun designing for a physical device and the form factors were so different from the basics of web design.

And so that continued until I started building my own apps.

And I would code them myself and get help from my developer friends.

And I'd do the design.

And I got to the point where a few of my apps were making a couple thousand dollars a month.

And with that, I decided to quit my job, go back to freelance.

And I sort of had this baseline of product income.

And then I just started doing more freelancing.

All the time, pay attention to this world of blogging and very early creators who were making money online.

And we dive into all of that because it's a fun process.

After I left Unity and started working on freelance design, I was really inspired by people like Chris Guillebeau, Tim Ferriss, and others like that who were talking about, here's how you make money on the internet.

And Chris Guillebeau would make a guide on a very particular subject and then sell that.

And I was like, okay, let me write a book about how to design iPhone apps.

I had two thoughts with it.

One, if I'm the guy who wrote the book on iPhone app design, then I'll get way more clients wanting to hire me to design an app.

The credibility will increase.