Nathan Grayson
👤 PersonAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
you wouldn't have a platform like Twitch or any of the other ones. You wouldn't have, you know, YouTube and TikTok and whatever either. But I think that Twitch especially is like, you know, it's all about, it's often about like bigger name streamers collaborating with each other. It's about the collaboration between a streamer and their chat. Like that's what it always goes back to.
you wouldn't have a platform like Twitch or any of the other ones. You wouldn't have, you know, YouTube and TikTok and whatever either. But I think that Twitch especially is like, you know, it's all about, it's often about like bigger name streamers collaborating with each other. It's about the collaboration between a streamer and their chat. Like that's what it always goes back to.
yeah so that was a particularly interesting experience because um so basically i for for every chapter of the book for the main interview i was very intent on doing it in person like going to where they were wow kind of seeing what their life looks like both on and off camera because i think that it's very easy to watch a streamer see them on screen for potentially like you know several hours per day or more depending on how much time you spend doing that and think okay
yeah so that was a particularly interesting experience because um so basically i for for every chapter of the book for the main interview i was very intent on doing it in person like going to where they were wow kind of seeing what their life looks like both on and off camera because i think that it's very easy to watch a streamer see them on screen for potentially like you know several hours per day or more depending on how much time you spend doing that and think okay
I know this person. Like, how could I not? I watch this person for more time than I spend with most people in my own life. And so I wanted to be able to really go behind the scenes to show, like, no, you kind of don't. Like, these people are still putting on a show for you. They're still only demonstrating one part of their personality. And, like...
I know this person. Like, how could I not? I watch this person for more time than I spend with most people in my own life. And so I wanted to be able to really go behind the scenes to show, like, no, you kind of don't. Like, these people are still putting on a show for you. They're still only demonstrating one part of their personality. And, like...
the really, the boring parts of the hard parts of their life, you're often not seeing. And so for Amaranth, I went to like her offices. She has a, an agency called real work. Um, and like met her employees, talked to them, interviewed her for a really long time, all this stuff. Um, it went well. I learned a lot about how our business works. And then like,
the really, the boring parts of the hard parts of their life, you're often not seeing. And so for Amaranth, I went to like her offices. She has a, an agency called real work. Um, and like met her employees, talked to them, interviewed her for a really long time, all this stuff. Um, it went well. I learned a lot about how our business works. And then like,
three weeks after that trip, the, she, she basically accused her then husband of abuse of like pretty serious, you know, verbal and financial abuse. And they like had it out on stream. Like she had him on the phone and they just like, you know, it was, it was really ugly and nasty and terrible. And it was just like a very sad thing to witness.
three weeks after that trip, the, she, she basically accused her then husband of abuse of like pretty serious, you know, verbal and financial abuse. And they like had it out on stream. Like she had him on the phone and they just like, you know, it was, it was really ugly and nasty and terrible. And it was just like a very sad thing to witness.
And also, because of the extent to which it seemed like her husband was involved in kind of the business side of things, of her streaming enterprise and of her larger business enterprise, it completely reframed the interview that I had with her. And so I had to then... For one, I had to interview her again months later to kind of clarify some things.
And also, because of the extent to which it seemed like her husband was involved in kind of the business side of things, of her streaming enterprise and of her larger business enterprise, it completely reframed the interview that I had with her. And so I had to then... For one, I had to interview her again months later to kind of clarify some things.
And for two, like, I ended up going through the police records for, like... Because they ended up, like, getting the cops involved when they were having their big argument on, like, the day of that stream. I ended up talking to other people, like, in her life who kind of knew about some of this and had maybe, you know, not talked about it publicly prior to then. All of this stuff.
And for two, like, I ended up going through the police records for, like... Because they ended up, like, getting the cops involved when they were having their big argument on, like, the day of that stream. I ended up talking to other people, like, in her life who kind of knew about some of this and had maybe, you know, not talked about it publicly prior to then. All of this stuff.
It completely recontextualized, like... her whole story um and i think it would be tempting to say like in this way where you know oh actually it wasn't this woman being a business mogul there was a man behind her and he knew what he was doing it's like no that's not really true that that wasn't really the case exactly um i think that the story there is more that
It completely recontextualized, like... her whole story um and i think it would be tempting to say like in this way where you know oh actually it wasn't this woman being a business mogul there was a man behind her and he knew what he was doing it's like no that's not really true that that wasn't really the case exactly um i think that the story there is more that
if you are a big streamer like you cannot do it alone there there are no actual solo acts at that level of twitch just because you're juggling so many things um both in terms of being live for tons of hours every day especially the time amaranth is streaming like crazy like putting in 10 plus hour days regularly
if you are a big streamer like you cannot do it alone there there are no actual solo acts at that level of twitch just because you're juggling so many things um both in terms of being live for tons of hours every day especially the time amaranth is streaming like crazy like putting in 10 plus hour days regularly
Um, but also in terms of running a business and like reaching out to people and, you know, doing deals to get sponsorships and expanding your business into other areas and all of this stuff. Um, it's simply as much as people are tempted to look at a streamer on camera and be like, yeah, that's them. And this is their whole thing. And they're doing it on their own. Amazing.
Um, but also in terms of running a business and like reaching out to people and, you know, doing deals to get sponsorships and expanding your business into other areas and all of this stuff. Um, it's simply as much as people are tempted to look at a streamer on camera and be like, yeah, that's them. And this is their whole thing. And they're doing it on their own. Amazing.