Nathan Johns

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3,934 appearances 33 recordings 2 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 11 Sep

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The Counter Ruck: The Irish Times Rugby Podcast · Where do Ireland go from here? · 21 Jul 2026 podcast

And I think the theme of the weekend, wasn't it? matched

On that though, well, the consistency is the point because the deliberate knock on is outcome is like, it's almost not outcome based because it's, oh, he's trying to catch it. matched

You know, he was there for legal. matched

So therefore it doesn't matter that he didn't catch it. matched

Whereas the high tackle one is outcome based because it's like, okay, well, he didn't actually hit him in the head or he hit someone else before he hit him in the head. matched

You know what I mean? matched

It's six, one, half a dozen, the other with two separate laws, which maybe that's okay with two separate incidents. matched

It's okay for one to be outcome based or one for not to be. matched

But that discrepancy is an intriguing one for me. matched

Well, what got me about that one was both of them talking so much about whether he grounded the ball in play or out of play. matched

They missed the two high tackles on the player as he was trying to ground the ball. matched

Well, both, but well, there was the Noah Kalori one where his hand literally slips, slips, slips off him. matched

But then there was the one of the player, I can't remember who's the player that came in, but you can make an argument that that was, that was a borderline high shot as well as he was grounding the ball. matched

I thought that was astonishing. matched

I thought that was almost as bad as the fact that one guy said it was black and the other guy said it was white. matched

Well, when is the seatbelt tackle not a seatbelt tackle? matched

Well, exactly. matched

We go back to the breakdown point, though, because I do agree with both of you that at times, Nick Berry was clearly very, very hot on if there is a defensive jersey anywhere within a foot of the ball, as in the tackler, within a foot of the ball, he ain't going to allow a poach. matched

And that's just, you can argue the toss, but whether that was right or wrong, or that's the way the game should be refereed, but that was his interpretation. matched

Teams, they adapted or they didn't. matched

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