Ned Johnson
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601 appearances
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1 series
first heard May 2019
last heard Sep 2024
Ned Johnson’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Controlled motivation is the classic carrots and sticks, where autonomous is in is an inner drive.
And he makes this point, and I think it's really important one.
That the nature of the motivation, the how things get done, matters fantastically more than that they get done.
So we as parents or teachers or educators, it's so easy to think, well, gosh, at least we've got this done.
The total motivation is really high.
But if 90% of that is external, then carrots and sticks, and only 10% is intrinsic, it's a terrible, terrible trade-off.
And if we lean in with more, you know, parental angst or or or tutors pushed into parents, whatever, the kids will put even less energy.
They'll they'll do it because they have to.
And for us, the most important outcome of childhood and adolescence is having the brain you're gonna have for the rest of your life.
then golly, you sure want a brain that's motivated to set and pursue goals that are meaningful to that person himself.
Otherwise, we as employers or teachers or parents or whatever will spend our lifetime trying to apply carrots and sticks to get kids to do what's in their own best interest rather than wanting them to do what's in their own best interest.
Well, you this is Ned uh I mean a couple of thoughts jumped to mind for me.
One is that we work on the assumption that kids want to be successful.
They have brains in their heads and they want their lives to work out.
The challenge is they may just not do it on the timescale that we want because we know that there's such an unevenness in how brains develop.
And the other question to point up being risky, it's like, well, what's risky that your kid isn't getting, you know, terrific grades in fourth grade, seventh grade, or or tenth grade, or twelfth grade, or doesn't go to the most selective college, versus
having a a brain that's wired to want to do things for himself, right?
And to Bill's point, an accurate model of how the world really works.
I mean, because both of us have seen so many ki have this kid I'm working with right now who his mom has a tutor coming to their house four days a week, three hours a night.
And I and I sort of was gobsmacked and I I said, Well, uh and she said, Well, if if the tutor doesn't show up, he won't do any work at all.
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