Nicole Lappin

I went through something similar.

I actually felt an extreme burnout that led to a breakdown.

I had to push out the launch of my third book.

Never imagined that I would have done that as a super type A person who always wore this busy badge of honor.

And I went through trying to understand and quantify what self-help looks like.

And I love that you think of it as a chart because that's what I was trying to do too.

I wanted these modalities, but I also wanted to prove that they worked.

I wanted science.

I wanted a chart.

I wanted exponential growth.

I didn't want something that was only going to feel like a chore.

And so to me, I looked at

meditation and journaling similarly.

I couldn't take the time to do all of it.

And I felt like I was just taking one step forward, maybe taking one step back.

What was the rewiring process for you after going through it and then thinking that you had to come up with something totally different?

Agreed.

Let's double click on the neuroplasticity and the classical conditioning.

Because as you started digging into this, you really leaned on the science behind it.

And what is that show with neuroplasticity?