Nicole Perlroth

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451 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 16 Jul

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I wrote a book about the humans and what it takes to find these zero-day exploit capabilities.
If you had asked me, hey, write a sequel and you can make it fiction, make it science fiction, what is the nightmare next chapter of this thing?
I would have written a book that didn't look that different.
from the era we are entering right now, where AI can essentially find these vulnerabilities and turn them on anyone they choose.
Everything's changed.
You know, last year, I was saying we were worried about this quote, you know, everything everywhere all at once cyber scenario based on what we were actually seeing Chinese hackers pre position in, which to jog everyone's memory, and it's still happening is unbelievable.
Water, power, pipeline infrastructure, high-speed rail, aviation, ports, logistics, that's all still happening.
So we had to contemplate this nightmare scenario of what would happen if all of these hackers sort of detonated on the access they have all at once.
So it wouldn't just be one colonial pipeline, but hacks on critical infrastructure across the country.
I always thought that it was unlikely that they would detonate on all these things at once unless they were making a move on Taiwan and they wanted us to think twice about whether we wanted to support this island 7,000 miles away.
And that even in that case, they would maybe go for one water treatment facility and a power grid hack here or there, just flicker the lights on and off.
Okay.
The problem is now we're in the mythos era and- Explain what that is for people who don't know.
So mythos is this new anthropic model, new-ish at this point, anthropic model that wasn't designed to exploit code.
It was actually designed to write code, but as a byproduct, it can exploit code.
which means it can find vulnerabilities in every major operating system, every browser, and chain them together into an exploit.
So it can do things like, and by the way, I interviewed the head red teamer at Anthropic.
So I'm a little bit close to the capability.
And I said, describe the capabilities that this model has in plain English.
He said,
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