Nicole Perlroth
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first heard Jul 2026
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Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
And these are capabilities that I, you know, the expert as a human would never have found otherwise.
The model is finding these.
And so the problem is now these models can do whatever.
what only previously the tier one elite nation state intelligence or their contractors could do.
Exactly.
And when I asked this red teamer at Anthropic, Nicholas Carlini, who do you worry about the most?
He said, well, on some level, the tier ones already have had this capability.
You know, obviously, the models will increase their productivity.
But you have to worry about these sort of tier two, tier three nation states like Iran, like North Korea, that have never had this capability before, but have done pretty well with just social engineering, are now going to have the ability to break in essentially anywhere they want.
Yeah.
So, you know, they came on the scene with Sony.
And I think if I remember, I think it was All Things D that broke that it was a North Korean cyber attack.
Yes, that was me.
That was me.
Yeah.
That was Kara Swisher.
Kara Swisher broke that one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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