Nicole Perlroth
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 14 Sep
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Anywho, I think this is why, and you've covered this brilliantly, this is why we saw Tim Cook show up with the golden statue.
We saw everyone and their wives and mothers show up to the White House for the inauguration.
This is what they're hoping to avoid.
And in this case, apparently Dario didn't play the game and they are where they are.
Now,
You know, it's amazing to me to have watched Anthropic do what I think was the responsible action to withhold this model once it saw what its cyber exploitation capabilities were, and then to watch David Sachs sort of disparage it on Twitter, and I think either in an interview with Politico, where he said, this is all marketing, essentially.
He was our AI czar.
He's no longer our AI czar.
But
I had the same questions.
How much of this is real?
How much of this is marketing?
Which is why I went and interviewed Nicholas Carlini, the red teamer at Anthropic.
If you listen to that interview, it's clear this guy doesn't have a marketing bone in his body.
He's truly just a hacker's hacker who was testing the models to see what they're capable of and came away wide-eyed at what these models can do.
And I think Anthropic did the right thing.
Now, coming back to the previous question on offense and defense, the best thing we can do defensively in this moment is take mythos, take fable, take every model from every major frontier lab, test its exploitation capabilities.
Including the new chat GPT, correct?
Exactly.
And Gemini.
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