Nicole Perlroth
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 14 Sep
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All of these models now have these capabilities, and soon, again, the open weight models will too.
And our best defense is to take them, aim them at ourselves, and see where we are vulnerable and move very quickly to eliminate those inroads and kill paths.
And so when you pull mythos or when you prevent our closest allies from having access to those models, from being able to essentially pen test themselves with these models, test where they're weakest, it's a big deal.
Because this is our sort of our greatest hope right now in terms of cyber defense, that we can use these models to test ourselves.
And my understanding is that, you know, mythos may still have the best cyber exploitation capabilities, but these other models are not far behind.
And I don't know what the long-term play here is.
Yeah, that's right.
And I think Anthropic has sort of done a good job doing some quiet education around some of these issues with the administration.
Maybe that's why they backed off.
But I think the big issue here is that, again, we're entering a new era.
I wrote a book, it took me seven years, about the humans and what it takes to find these zero-day exploit capabilities, these vulnerabilities that only they could find.
and the market that existed from governments to buy these from these hackers and use them in their offensive operations.
And these were the best of the best.
Yes, this is how they tell me the world ends.
And in retrospect, what that book was about was about scarcity.
It was about the few people who could find these vulnerabilities and then create the code to exploit them in systems like our iOS, iPhone operating system so that they could basically turn these things into ankle bracelets.
If you had asked me, hey, write a sequel and you can make it fiction, make it science fiction, what is the nightmare next chapter of this thing?
I would have written a book that didn't look that different from the era we are entering right now,
where AI can essentially find these vulnerabilities that, again, were just the purview of these advanced hackers and nation-states and turn them on anyone they choose.
And that's the era we're walking into.
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