Nicolle Wallace

And he's saying it like what's crazy about covering him this time is you would worry about someone saying, oh, Trump derangement syndrome.

Like these are his words.

Like I sit down every day and just write down all the things J.D.

Vance said about him.

If I ever feel like I want to know, I could never insult him as brutally as J.D.

Vance and Mitch McConnell and Bob Corker did.

And then the things he's saying about his rationale, I could never ascribe more lunacy than he cops to on the record in interviews.

I think that's right that that's how he sees the world.

Marco Rubio has a long record in front of cameras of advocating almost the opposite worldview.

What do you think it is in a human that makes them reverse themselves and go along with that?

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I watched Rubio.

Like he was walking on a hot roof, right?

After the double strike was revealed and the campaign in the Caribbean started to be covered and received some bipartisan condemnation, questions about whether or not war crimes had been committed.

Let me ask you, is a double strike that kills shipwreck survivors, in your view, something that should be investigated as a possible war crime?

Let me ask you about both those incidents, though, because the culture of impunity is fleeting.