Nicolle Wallace

Trump is a lame duck.

He can never run for anything again.

So he will be gone in three years.

Impunity is...

Fleeting, right?

I mean, like anyone could run for president on the platform of accountability for everyone operating outside the laws as we understand them.

Now, they could run to change the laws, but the laws as we understand them, the laws of war have in their own book the example of striking shipwreck survivors as meeting a definition of a war crime.

The conduct of ICE.

I mean, we are all cautious and I think reflexively protective and defensive of the mission.

of law enforcement, and that is a good thing.

But the conduct of ICE that is happening in front of our eyes on the streets of American cities is not in any book or manual or training for any domestic law enforcement organization in this country ever.

I mean, it is all insane.

And I wonder if you think that the idea that

There's impunity now because Trump is the president and he's pardoning everybody, even people his own DOJ has prosecuted and convicted, is creating paralysis.

What do you think happens just at a human level?

This has become my burning question.

Like, how does a human being...

I mean, and Renee Nicole Good was a mom doing the drop-off run.

I mean, that hits so close to home for so many people I know still doing the drop-off run.

And people all over the country have become ICE watchers, warning their neighbors and communities that there's ICE activity, enforcement activity in their neighborhood.